Beyond The Parks
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As enthusiasts it's easy for us to look at things from an enthusiasts point of view. Whether it's coasters and theme parks, movies, music ... pretty much anything that people are, well, enthusiastic about.
Original article written April 14, 2015
Updated April 6, 2017
Original article written April 14, 2015
Updated April 6, 2017
Written by Gregg Condon
When a new ride opens, for example, we put on our enthusiast hat and we rate the coaster based on those factors. It's the nature of things. We are knowledgeable about whatever it is we are enthusiastic because we spend our free time online reading about our hobby, spend more time actually doing our hobby and generally spend more money on our hobby than those we consider to be the "General Public".
Unfortunately with that knowledge and enthusiasm comes a tendency to think we are "better than" others or they just don't "get it".
Unfortunately with that knowledge and enthusiasm comes a tendency to think we are "better than" others or they just don't "get it".
Verbolten at Busch Gardens
Intimidator 305
Even with all of the money we all spend at parks, and the fact that through clubs and sites we are sometimes able to get "special access" to things, we are in the grand scheme of things a drop in the bucket to the theme parks bottom line. Parks are about making money, this means catering to the most common denominator, and we aren't it.
So when we ride a new ride, see a new ride announcement, visit a theme park ... it's important for us to try and see things from the parks point of view, better yet, from the "General Public" point of view. The people who will make their one visit to the park each year (or every few years), they are the ones who will buy gate tickets instead of AP's, spend money on the merchandise, food, etc.
So when we ride a new ride, see a new ride announcement, visit a theme park ... it's important for us to try and see things from the parks point of view, better yet, from the "General Public" point of view. The people who will make their one visit to the park each year (or every few years), they are the ones who will buy gate tickets instead of AP's, spend money on the merchandise, food, etc.
Gold Striker at California's Great America
El Toro at Six Flags Great Adventure
For me personally, I've never really used the word "Enthusiast" to describe myself. I like a LOT of different things, visiting theme parks and riding coasters is just one of my hobby's, sure I'm enthusiastic about it, but I've always seen it more of an "ambassador" role than anything.
Sometimes it's hard while waiting in line for something, hearing somebody from the "GP" making a comment and not wanting to correct them. We've all heard the "This ride goes like 90 mph" when it actually goes about 55 mph. And we've all also seen "that guy" who tries to prove he's better than everybody else because he knows the top speed, number of inversions, capacity of the ride and ride manufacturer.
Sometimes it's hard while waiting in line for something, hearing somebody from the "GP" making a comment and not wanting to correct them. We've all heard the "This ride goes like 90 mph" when it actually goes about 55 mph. And we've all also seen "that guy" who tries to prove he's better than everybody else because he knows the top speed, number of inversions, capacity of the ride and ride manufacturer.
Haunted Mansion Holiday
Spaceship Earth
Nowhere is this more prevalent than at Disney parks, Disneyland in particular. As a long-time Annual Passholder (from 1997-2013) we saw this a LOT. For us, going to Disneyland on average of twice a month was always about just going to enjoy a day at the park. It was never about "let's see what needs to be painted this week'. Even now, as we've developed this website, with VERY RARE occasions do we get hyper critical of anything. Sometimes it's inevitable but we've made a conscious decision to not go that route.
This also extends into another arena, and we've all heard the terms "Passholes" or "Assholders" to describe Disneyland AP's.
When you are visiting a park, try to put yourself in the shoes of somebody who is visiting for the first time. Whether it's a coaster or an E-ticket "Dark Ride". You may have ridden it hundreds or thousands of times, but for somebody who is riding it for the first time, don't ruin their "magic".
You may want to know how everything works, you may have studied it online, but keep that to yourselves. Don't spoil the ride. I always treat dark rides like I'd treat going to the theater. To be respectful of those around you and be an "ambassador" of the park.
Sure, go ahead and sing along with the pirates or the ghosts, but put that phone away, enjoy where you are and what you've spend your money on.
This also extends into another arena, and we've all heard the terms "Passholes" or "Assholders" to describe Disneyland AP's.
When you are visiting a park, try to put yourself in the shoes of somebody who is visiting for the first time. Whether it's a coaster or an E-ticket "Dark Ride". You may have ridden it hundreds or thousands of times, but for somebody who is riding it for the first time, don't ruin their "magic".
You may want to know how everything works, you may have studied it online, but keep that to yourselves. Don't spoil the ride. I always treat dark rides like I'd treat going to the theater. To be respectful of those around you and be an "ambassador" of the park.
Sure, go ahead and sing along with the pirates or the ghosts, but put that phone away, enjoy where you are and what you've spend your money on.
Fury 325 - Not Bland and Mild
How about Big and Mighty
Moving back to Coasters themselves, because that is the point of this article.
When a new ride opens, let's use Fury 325 as an example, there are generally a barrage of reviews from "enthusiast" sites, talking about "another Boring B&M" and it being "forceless".
RIDES ARE NOT BUILT FOR US!!!!
While my personal top-20 includes a lot of "enthusiast favorite" coasters like Intimidator 305, SkyRush, El Toro and Phoenix, it also includes rides like Verbolten, Gold Striker, Flight Deck, Mr Freeze and Big Thunder Mtn Railroad.
Why? Because for me, I like to have fun on a coaster. It's not always about the biggest and fastest, it's about fun. Some of the most fun rides I've ever had on a coaster have been late night rides on something like Goliath at SFOG or the last rides we got on Colossus before it closed. Not because it's the biggest or fastest, but because it's just a fun ride with a lot of fun people.
When a new ride opens, let's use Fury 325 as an example, there are generally a barrage of reviews from "enthusiast" sites, talking about "another Boring B&M" and it being "forceless".
RIDES ARE NOT BUILT FOR US!!!!
While my personal top-20 includes a lot of "enthusiast favorite" coasters like Intimidator 305, SkyRush, El Toro and Phoenix, it also includes rides like Verbolten, Gold Striker, Flight Deck, Mr Freeze and Big Thunder Mtn Railroad.
Why? Because for me, I like to have fun on a coaster. It's not always about the biggest and fastest, it's about fun. Some of the most fun rides I've ever had on a coaster have been late night rides on something like Goliath at SFOG or the last rides we got on Colossus before it closed. Not because it's the biggest or fastest, but because it's just a fun ride with a lot of fun people.
Saying goodbye to Colossus
First ride on X2 (for one of us)
So next time you're at a park, and you see somebody who's out enjoying the park with their family, don't look down on them, be that ambassador for the theme park community.
See a kid who's scared of the ride? Talk to him a bit about the ride itself and about how safe and fun it is.
Give up that front seat ride to somebody who doesn't visit the park as often as you do. Enjoy the park as if it's your only visit there,
I guarantee you'll have a blast and maybe just see the park you visit all the time in an entirely new light.
See a kid who's scared of the ride? Talk to him a bit about the ride itself and about how safe and fun it is.
Give up that front seat ride to somebody who doesn't visit the park as often as you do. Enjoy the park as if it's your only visit there,
I guarantee you'll have a blast and maybe just see the park you visit all the time in an entirely new light.
Update: April 6, 2017
Well, it's been 2 years since this article and now we are in the midst of another hated ride about to open ... nevermind that nobody in the online community has even ridden this ride yet, people are all so certain we are going to hate it.
I'm of course talking about Guardians of the Galaxy Mission Breakout at DCA.
Well, it's been 2 years since this article and now we are in the midst of another hated ride about to open ... nevermind that nobody in the online community has even ridden this ride yet, people are all so certain we are going to hate it.
I'm of course talking about Guardians of the Galaxy Mission Breakout at DCA.
Of course, all of the people complaining about said ride are going to be lining up to ride it on opening day in order to get their articles up first, or better yet, get invited to media events for rides they have been bashing since day one.
Like with everything else, we'll be taking a wait and see approach with the new tower. Because if you'll remember when the original DCA tower of terror was built it was also hated. For it's design, that it was a lesser version of the one in Florida and because it stuck out like a sore thumb. But lo and behold, now it's apparently a sacred attraction like Pirates or The Haunted Mansion.
Let's remember those people we spoke about 2 years ago. Those infrequent visitors. Those kids who LOVE Guardians of the Galaxy and have NO idea what The Twilight Zone even was. Let's put a little faith in Disney to bring us a great new re-imagined attraction.
Like with everything else, we'll be taking a wait and see approach with the new tower. Because if you'll remember when the original DCA tower of terror was built it was also hated. For it's design, that it was a lesser version of the one in Florida and because it stuck out like a sore thumb. But lo and behold, now it's apparently a sacred attraction like Pirates or The Haunted Mansion.
Let's remember those people we spoke about 2 years ago. Those infrequent visitors. Those kids who LOVE Guardians of the Galaxy and have NO idea what The Twilight Zone even was. Let's put a little faith in Disney to bring us a great new re-imagined attraction.
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Yeah it's gotten a bit disturbing how far enthusiasts have gone in the wrong direction.
No wonder a certain park didn't invite but one enthusiast group to their media day last month after what I heard of the horrors of dealing with them at Banshee's big day.
Also if you are an enthusiast and are blessed to get to go to a media day, don't expect it to be a free ERT session! It's not about you, it's about the park promoting their new attraction!
With VERY rare exceptions, you aren't going to get an ERT session at a media day. Tend to usually get more rides on soft openings than you would on a media day.
At the same time being critical of rides is perfectly fine among other enthusiasts. You debate about what is good/bad knowing that, for the most part, the general park goers will probably like it.
If I talk to someone I don't know I absolutely want to be the ambassador and talk about the good things only unless directly asked. But when I'm with fellow enthusiasts its OK to comment that I wish that I could melt down every single SLC and boomerang.
I wish I'd have thought to include that in the article. =)
I've since tried to really just enjoy the parks now, and not "call them out" on all the little things I see wrong like the mentality I used to have after being a part of a certain "enthusiast" website.